NUNNALLY Family

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gnunley
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I have tracked my name back to Noneley Shropshire where I found Richard NUNNALLY was born in 1615 in Noneley Village then later died in Virginia USA in 1640 - does anyone have any family records of his relatives, siblings etc around 1615 and prior to 1615?

Michael J Hulme
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Hello

Noneley is in the Parish of Loppington. The surviving Loppington parish registers do not commence until 1654 but fortunately the Bishop's Transcripts (BTs) survive from 1558 with gaps at 1645-53 and some later dates. It is these records which will appear on the Family Search web site but I can't immediately see your Richard NUNNALLY born 1615 listed in those records.

Mike

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A Richard Nunnally born 1615 in Noneley village (or variant spellings of the same) or just in Shropshire and who died 1640 in Virginia, USA appears in a lot of Ancestry member trees. The problem is, few of them name his parents (and those that do say either that his father was Richard Nunn or Thomas Nunn) nor do any of them cite any sources (apart from other members' trees) for either his birth or death years / places, apart from a record showing the arrival of a 19 year old Richard Nunn in Massachusetts, USA in 1635 (giving a birth year of around 1616). There is nothing in the record cited to indicate that Richard Nunn originated from Shropshire, and no evidence to show that this Richard Nunn became Richard Nunnally.

A few of the trees have linked to Richard a Shropshire probate record for a Richard Nunnely dating from 1634, but I think this would have been the date the will was proved or administration granted, i.e. it would have been after the death of the Richard Nunnely in question and so would not relate to Richard Nunnaley dying in 1640 in the USA.

The trees show Richard's wife as Elizabeth, her surname given by some as Elam and by others as Wren, but again there is no marriage record cited by any of them. Most of the trees show a son born to Richard and Elizabeth, named Richard after his father, born 1640 and died 1725 in Virginia, and some additionally show another son named Daniel born the same year, but again, no records are cited for either child. Richard junior apparently married Sarah Akin, and various children are shown from this marriage depending which tree is consulted.

These of course are other people's trees not yours, but they seem to indicate an absence of any firm evidence, in the form of citations of verifiable records, to confirm Richard's connection to other family members (e.g. a baptism record naming his parents, or perhaps a will made by him or by his parents or by a sibling giving sufficient detail to link him with them), or indeed any records which would confirm his actual existence. If you have found any such records it would be good to see details as these would help enormously.

There is a Prerogative Court of Canterbury will of a Thomas Nonnyley of Burlton, in the parish of Loppington, Shropshire, proved 6 Feb 1631, who names his son as Thomas and his son Thomas's children as Joane, Thomas, Elizabeth, John, Richard and George, but I would be very, very hesitant to suggest that the Richard Nonnyley named in that will was the Richard Nonnally you are looking for.

Steve

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There is a book:

Our Nunnally/Nunley family: including connecting branches : Ferrill and Biggs, Welker and Niswonger

which mentions this family. I can't see much of it via Google Books, but it appears they haven't even connected back to a Shropshire birth.

I have had some exposure to colonial US genealogies and found a great deal of questionable information, particularly in attempts to bridge the pond. Many people are insistant on assuming a place of birth, which quickly becomes replicated, as described above. When ever I see born in {year} in place, particularly if there are no parents, I am immediatly very skeptical. Although it is highly likely the family are from Shropshire, this is very much a Shropshire surname and is still found here, the genealogical record for this period is sparse. Where there are records of baptism, they are often full of gaps and unreadable portions.

"On page one Ms. Dennison visits the possibility that this line begins with a Richard Nunn, age 19, who arrived from London on the ship "Increase," bound for Boston, in April 1635 or with Thomas Nunn, age 22, who sailed from London on the ship "David" September 1635, bound for Virginia."

So it appears this 1615 birth year has been assumed from this questionable link. To begin attempting to establish a link you'll need to find something to direct investigations in Britain, such as a court deposition, which if they follow the English style, may list age and/or parish of birth.