Thomas Henry HULME

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Julie Willder
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I am looking for information on my gt. grandfather Thomas Henry Hulme he was born in Birmingham around 1855 and died in Shrewsbury in 1920, he was married to Sarah Wigginton in 1917, in the 1901 census he was living at Victoria Terrace Shrewsbury where Sarah was his housekeeper, i know he worked for the railway LNW. I know his story from 1901 onwards but nothing of his birth or life prior to 1901, any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Julie

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Hi Julie,
I now understand why nobody else has responded so far to what initially seemed a straight forward enquiry.
I can't find Thomas Henry HULME on any record prior to the 1901 census.
He is mentioned in various family trees online but no one has any factual information prior to the 1901 census.
I suspect that although he remembered growing up in Birmingham, I don't think his birth was registered there.
I did find the previous marriage of his wife Sarah Jane WIGGINTON nee EVANS but that doesn't help.
May I suggest that you get the 1917 marriage details and hope that the father of Thomas Henry HULME is detailed. His full name and occupation may assist with the search.
Have you considered having a DNA test in the hope that a close match may provide some information.
Regards,
Gwynne

Julie Willder
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Hi Gwynne,

Thank you for the reply, Thomas Henry HULME has proved to be something of an enigma, i did obtain the 1917 marriage cert. and his father is given as the same name Thomas Henry HULME (deceased) and his occupation as Painter but nothing to indicate where he was from, there is a witness Henry HULME i assume he has to be a relation but i don't know if maybe he was a brother or perhaps their son also named Thomas Henry who would have been around 13 years old when they married.

I did a DNA test through Ancestry but no matches as yet for Thomas Hulme.

If you have any other suggestions i would appreciate the help.

Kind regards

Julie

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Hi Julie, I've spent a few hours for you today. And i've found something very interesting.

I'm a person who thinks out of the box, Well would you believe it a Thomas Hulme registered the death of a Margaret Hulme, age 49, Charwoman of St.Julian, who died on the 20th March 1904 in Berrington workhouse. And a Thomas Hulme a Cousin in attendence (abode) 12 Victoria Terrace, New Park Street, Shewsbury. registered her Death!

So was he a cousin or a husband to this Margaret?

So is this your Thomas Hulme in an earlier Cenus:

Very Good chance

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bakehouse Yard, 7, Longden Coleham, Shrewsbury, Atcham, Shropshire, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Thomas            Hulme    Head    Married    Male    35    1856    Blacksmiths striker    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Margaret    Hulme    Wife    -    Female    36    1855    -    Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales

And the said Margaret in the 1901 Cens:

Very good Chance:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
4, Longden Coleham Three Tuns Passage, Shrewsbury St Julian, Atcham, Shropshire, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Jane    Davies    Head    Widow    Female    44    1857    Charwoman    Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales
David    Davies    Son    -    Male    12    1889    -    Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales
George    Davies    Son    -    Male    8    1893    -    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth    Davies    Daughter    -    Female    6    1895    -    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Margaret    Hulme    Boarder    Married    Female    45    1856    -    Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Margaret Hulme's death:

Death:
HULME, MARGARET         49  
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 490

At the moment I haven't found a marriage for the above couple

johnp3
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Hi Julie, Just ask the moderator for my email address & i'll send you the copy of Margaret's death.

Best Regards

J.P

 

 

Julie Willder
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Hi John, many thanks for the information on Thomas HULME it looks like there is a strong possibility that it is my Thomas the only contradiction is his birthplace which he gives as Birmingham in both the 1901 & 1911 census, i will do some more digging with this new information. 

I am new to the site so could you tell me how do i contact the moderator for your email address.

Kind regrads

Julie

johnp3
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Hi Julie, just ask him on this thread, and when he's next online he should see it. If not then start a thread titled moderator, he would notice that. But give him a couple days first though.

And during my many 1,000 of hours reseach, I've come across all sorts of tales of where persons were born and it could change from census to census. And also to lie about their marital status, even on marriage records.

And I think we can be certain it was him who registered Margaret's death.

Best Regards

J.P

Michael J Hulme
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Hello John

I have sent your email address to Julie.

Mike

Julie Willder
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Hi Mike,

Many thanks for John's email, can't help but notice your surname of HULME this was my maiden name.

Kind regards

Julie

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Hello Julie

First time of looking on the forum and your post has potentially solved a mystery that I’ve been trying to solve for over 20 years!! I think that your great grandfather Thomas Henry Hulme may have been born Thomas Henry Wilcox in Birmingham on 29 March 1855. His mother Jane Wilcox married William Hulme in Shrewsbury in 1860. Thomas would have been my great grandfather’s older brother.

If you would like to ask the moderator for my email address I’ll be very happy to share what I know and having also done a DNA test.

Really looking forward to hearing from you

Jane

Michael J Hulme
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Hello Jane

I have sent your email address to Julie.

Mike

Julie Willder
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Hi Jane

Lovely to hear from you, i have your email address and will be in touch soon.

I feel i should mention J.P. who found me on the SFHS forum and has done extensive research that has unlocked the mystery of Thomas HULME for me, i can not thank him enough for all the help he has provided.

Julie 

Julie Willder
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Hello Jane,

Did you receive my email

Kind regards

Julie

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Hello Julie

Sorry no I haven't received anything from you

Jane