Thomas COOPER ELISABETH HAGLINGTON/AGLINGTON circa 1796

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 Hi everyone I'm looking to go further back on my tree as after many years have finally established my 3x gt. Grandparents. Thomas & Elizabeth Cooper both born Wellington Salop or as stated/transcriber Dennngton on 1 census but think this must be Donnington. Below information I have on family.

Married Thomas Cooper Elizabeth Aglington  Parifh of Wellington both of Parifh. 19th June 1821. By (John Bartlett my translation).   Witnesses John Raden & Thos Rowleys ( my translation).                                                                                    

Children's  baptism Wellington parents Thomas & Elizabeth Cooper, father miner, abode, not easy to read looks like Raf field but from census records for Edward think Rackfield/ Rackfield Row. 
Ruth Cooper 25th Feb 1824. George Cooper but transcribed as Cowper 29th April 1827. By my best gues something Birds. Edward Cooper 26th June 1833 by looks like John Parkin. Thos Cooper 29th Nov 1835 by my best guess E Owen. Younger children all born Bilston Wolverhampton Staffordshire.with mother's maiden name Haglington.

Have Thomas & Elizabeth on 1841, 1851 &1861 census all in Bilston, can't find the on 1871 so assume died, but can't find an exact date of death. Have looked on Wolverhampton council that has all record burials form that time & no matches. Wondering if they may have been buried back in Shropshire.  Any help with births or burials for Thomas & Elizabeth I would be really grateful or it just might take me many more years to get further back lol.     Sorry forgot to say from uk North West Wigan area Sorry again I did want to ask is there 2 Donnington's as in Donington as well & what area should I be searching in for this area as doesn't Seem to come up. Also not to sure about Ruth & Thos as not on any census just assumed May be children as same abode. Thanks

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Hi Veletta, See below & the link will tell you more about Ragfield Row & the local area etc:

Best Regards

J.P.J

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/salop/vol11/pp252-256

Possible Baptisms for Thomas:

First name(s)    Thomas      Abode:Fedinr? Lane
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1796
Baptism date    16 Jul 1796
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wombridge
Father's first name(s)    Wilm
Mother's first name(s)    Mary
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism & Burial
Register date range    1779-1812
Archive reference    P310/A/1/3
Page    43
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Thos
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1797
Baptism date    02 Apr 1797
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wombridge
Father's first name(s)    James
Mother's first name(s)    Jane
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism & Burial
Register date range    1779-1812
Archive reference    P310/A/1/3
Page    45
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Thomas
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1799
Baptism date    10 Nov 1799
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Dawley Magna
Father's first name(s)    Isaac
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism & Burial
Register date range    1794-1812
Archive reference    P89/A/1/3
Page    17
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

My Favourite out of the four:
First name(s)    Thos
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1800
Baptism date    08 Jun 1800
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wombridge
Father's first name(s)    Thomas
Mother's first name(s)    Ann
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism & Burial
Register date range    1779-1812
Archive reference    P310/A/1/3
Page    60
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms
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Only Baptism I could find for Elizabeth:

Possible:

Baptism:
First name(s)    Elizth
Last name    Aglington
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1804
Baptism date    29 Jul 1804
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s)    Benjn
Mother's first name(s)    Catharine
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Composite
Register date range    1799-1806
Archive reference    P291/A/1/5
Page    77
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms
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Marriage:
First name(s)    Thomas   X
Last name    Cooper
Marriage year    1821
Marriage date    19 Jun 1821
Marriage place    Wellington, All Saints
Denomination    Anglican
Residence    Wellington, All Saints
Spouse's first name(s)    Elizabeth   X
Spouse's last name    Aglington
Spouse's residence    Wellington, All Saints
County    Shropshire
Register date range    1813-1827
Archive reference    P291/A/3/5
Page    131
Register type    Marriage
Record set    Shropshire Marriages
Wit: John Roden, Thos Rowleys  X
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Baptisms:
First name(s)    Ruth    Abode:Ragfields
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1824
Baptism date    25 Feb 1824
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s)    Thomas    Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1813-1825
Archive reference    P291/A/2/1
Page    277
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s)    George    Abode:Ragfields
Last name    Cowper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1827
Baptism date    29 Apr 1827
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s)    Thomas   Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1825-1833
Archive reference    P291/A/2/2
Page    86
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Edward    Abode:Ragfield
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1833
Baptism date    26 Jun 1833
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s)    Thomas    Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1833-1840
Archive reference    P291/A/2/3
Page    2
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Thos    Abode:Ragfields
Last name    Cooper
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1835
Baptism date    29 Nov 1835
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s)    Thos    Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s)    Elizth
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1833-1840
Archive reference    P291/A/2/3
Page    98
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s)    John     Abode:Lester Street
Last name    Cooper
Baptism year    1838
Baptism date    14 Jan 1838
Baptism place    Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination    Anglican
Father's first name(s)    Thomas    Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
County    Staffordshire
Country    England
Archive reference    D3338/1/1
Page    194
Register type    Baptism
Record set    Staffordshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Henry    Abode:Lichfield Street
Last name    Cooper
Baptism year    1840
Baptism date    02 Feb 1840
Baptism place    Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination    Anglican
Father's first name(s)    Thomas    Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
County    Staffordshire
Country    England
Archive reference    D3338/1/1
Page    384
Register type    Baptism
Record set    Staffordshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Louisa     Abode:Bilston
Last name    Cooper
Baptism year    1843
Baptism date    12 Feb 1843
Baptism place    Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination    Anglican
Father's first name(s)    Thomas     Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
County    Staffordshire
Country    England
Archive reference    D3338/1/2
Page    162
Register type    Baptism
Record set    Staffordshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Thomas    Abode:Bilston
Last name    Cooper
Baptism year    1846
Baptism date    04 Jan 1846
Baptism place    Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination    Anglican
Father's first name(s)    Thomas   Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
County    Staffordshire
Country    England
Archive reference    D3338/1/2
Page    364
Register type    Baptism
Record set    Staffordshire Baptisms

First name(s)    Mary Ann    Abode:Bilston
Last name    Cooper
Baptism year    1848
Baptism date    30 Mar 1848
Baptism place    Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination    Anglican
Father's first name(s)    Thomas    Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s)    Elizabeth
County    Staffordshire
Country    England
Archive reference    D3338/1/3
Page    45
Register type    Baptism
Record set    Staffordshire Baptisms

Death:
COOPER, MARY  ANN       2  
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON  Volume 17  Page 235
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hall Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Sex    Age    Birth year    Birth place
Thomas    Cooper    Male    40    1801    -  Miner
Elizabeth    Cooper    Female    40    1801    -
George    Cooper    Male    15    1826    - Miner
Edward    Cooper    Male    8    1833    -
John    Cooper    Male    3    1838    Staffordshire, England
Henry    Cooper    Male    1    1840    Staffordshire, England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hare Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Thomas    Cooper    Head    Married    Male    50    1801    Iron Miner    Donington, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth    Cooper    Wife    Married    Female    48    1803    -    Donington, Shropshire, England
Edward    Cooper    Son    Unmarried    Male    19    1832    Iron Miner  Oakengates,    Shropshire, England
John    Cooper    Son    -    Male    13    1838    Iron Miner    Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Henry    Cooper    Son    -    Male    12    1839    Iron Miner    Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Louisa    Cooper    Daughter    -    Female    7    1844    Scholar    Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Thomas    Cooper    Son    -    Male    4    1847    Scholar    Bilston, Staffordshire, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
2, Church Street, Bilston, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Thomas    Cooper    Head    Married    Male    65    1796    Coal Miner    Wellington, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth    Cooper    Wife    Married    Female    68    1793    Coal Miners Wife Wellington, Shropshire, England
Thomas    Cooper    Son    -    Male    15    1846    Coal Miner    Bilston, Staffordshire, England
John    Cooper    Son    Unmarried    Male    22    1839    Coal Miner    Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Louisa    Cooper    Daughter    Unmarried    Female    17    1844    Coal Brawer On...Bank    Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Possible Deaths if they both died before the 1871 Cens:
COOPER, THOMAS         66  
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 328

COOPER, THOMAS         74  
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 363

COOPER, THOMAS         76  
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 334

COOPER, THOMAS         68  
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 310
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COOPER, ELIZABETH         67  
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 266

COOPER, ELIZABETH         65  
GRO Reference: 1863  D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 319

COOPER, ELIZABETH         69  
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 479

 

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Wow Wow Wow thank you so much! I had just found Benji  & Catherine but wasn't sure. I also found a Joseph Haglington mother Elizabeth Haglington born just before they were married, on image fathers name crossed out but looks like Thomas oh dear lol. You even have my Gt. Grandfather John Cooper born bilston his son Isaac was my grandfather. Can't say how amazing this is after so many years looking for them. Think Elizabeth died first & Thomas went living with his son Edward as have Edward living Oatmeal sq Bilston on 1861 census & the Thomas age 66 1864 died Oatmeal sq & as Elizabeth always states that she is older on census think Elizabeth 1861 age 67 may be the one but that's just conjecture. Oh & by the way just realised put 3 x instead of 2 x gt grandparent lol

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Hi J.P.J

Looks like your favorite for Thomas is correct. Found a Samuel Cooper 1797 living rag field row 1841. 
Samuel also living in Bilston 1851.
Found his sister Mary Beddow (Cooper) who has Samuel's daughter  Harriiet age 15 living with her 1851.

Found Mary Cooper birth 19th April 1795 Wombridge parents Thomas & Ann Cooper.

Can't find Samuel's birth but couldn't find Thomas birth either guessing not on Family Search & not coming up on my heritage Site. Can I ask where you found Thomas do I need to buy some records or something to carry on Thank you 

 

 

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Hi Valetta.

Could you confirm if your Thomas & Ann married about 1791, and was Ann,s maiden name Southall.

And do you have any silblings for Thomas, (If I am correct he was born 1768 Wrockwardine and was twin brother to a John)

We may be distantly related, because if the above details fit with your tree. Thomas,s twin brother, John married a Sibbella Adderley. John would of been my GGGGrandad.

It would be great if we are from the same line of Cooper.s

 

Regards

DaveC, Aylesbury Bucks

 

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, William & Elizabeth.Hi Dave haven't got that far yet lol but when I search on family search site yes it does keep coming up with Ann Southall as a match on other trees but I like to do my own research but this is great news. Apart  from family I know never met anyone doing My family Coopers. I think Samuel Cooper 1797 is an ideal candidate for brother Thomas circa 1799 but having trouble finding a birth for him. Have his  marriage to Mary Heford/Heaford 14 Feb 1820 Wellington same place as Thomas 1799. On the image also a Sarah Cooper marriage to Samuel Bates same day but haven't got round to her yet.

I'm just trying to find out at the moment which site has the records for the area or if I need to buy some.

My Coopers ended up in Lancashire area Ashton-in-Makerfield.

Just had a reply on roots chat looks like records on find my past. They gave me all the other children born to Thomas & Ann.

Catherine, James , William & Elizabeth. Also possible marriage to Ann Southall :) On marriage witness Joseph Severns? Which I assume is hard to read. My Thomas who married Elizabeth Aglington her mother was Catherine on her marriage Stephenton but other records Steventon. Wondering if this was Joseph's last name, one to watch out for in research. 

 

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Hi Valetta.

In my tree I have.

Thomas Cooper b 1768 married Ann Southall 1791(Twin brother to John Cooper, my cooper family line)

Thomas & Ann children. 

Catherine b 1793

Mary b 1795

Samuel b 1798 married Mary Heaford 1820

Thomas b 1800

James b1807

William b 1809

Elizabeth b 1811

Sorry do not have a Sarah.

It seems that we may be on a similar family line. If you find from your research we are, let me know if I can help.

I use FMP most, but I also use all the free sites I can, Melocki is a good site for all the Shropshire villages.

Will be very interested to know if we are on the same lines, Incidently, My Cooper line hails from Bilston also, I am the last male Cooper on my parental line. although I now live in Bucks, where I settled have leaving the military.

 

Regards

DaveC Bucks

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Hi Dave Think I can safely say we are from the same line. Unfortunately my father Vincent Cooper 1911 Lancashire was the last Cooper my family but he did have lots of brothers. His father was Isaac Cooper 1870  born Cannock Staffordshire. His father was John Cooper 1838 Bilston. His father is the Thomas Cooper born 1799. Shropshire. Talk abt itchy feet they did like to move around, don't make it easy to research lol Oh like the Melocki looks like that could be useful thanks 

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Hi Valetta.

If you look at the registers on Melocki for Wrockwardine/Wombridge you will find Thomas Cooper and John Cooper twin sons born 1768 to Thomas and Elizabeth. (I think Elizabeth maiden name was Ball)

I followed the last information you gave me on your tree and I can trace it all on the census returns right back back to 1841.

We need to prove that the Thomas who married Elizabeth Aglington is the same twin brother, what puts a bit of a spanner in the works, is that there is a marriage for a Thomas at Wombridge to an Elizabeth Sutton in 1822. and a marriage at Wrockwardine to Mary Dorricott 1819.

I will do some more digging and let you know how I get on, if you find anything else please let me know. I am not sure if I am allowed to give you my e-mail address on here, which would be much better for communication, save keep blocking up this site with our messages. (maybe someone will let me know)

Keep looking and I will be in contact.

 

Dave C Bucks

 

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Hi Dave Thomas who married Elizabeth Aglington not twin think he's Samuel's brother their dad Thomas Twin.

I'm just in the middle of doing this but Samuel Cooper 1841 census living Rag field Shropshire. On same page Rag field! Elizabeth Aglington's parents Benjamin & Catherine Aglington  (maiden name Stephenton/Steventon) her brothers Richard & Thomas Aglington with their family's. Also next door to Samuel a John Stevington, other side Joseph Bedow. There is also a James & Sarah Ball family transcribed (Sarih) My head is spinning & that's just from the one page, going through all the pages for Rag field & more Coopers turning up hoping to find a connection.

IAs for email address don't think admin would like us to make public because it is connected to you sign in. However if admin read this I don't mind you sending Dave my email.

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Hi Valetta, The info for that Thos cooper B. in 1800 Wombridge is on Find My Past.

If you would like the image of his Baptism then kindly ask the moderator to supply me with your email address.

Then I could email it to you.

Best Regards

J.P.J

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Thank you

Valetta
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Sorry Mike can you send my email to J.P.J as well thank you

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Thanks John

 

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Valetta's email has been sent to J.P.J.

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Thank you