Despite many searches on various ancestry websites I am unable to find the marriage of my great, great grandparents William JARVIS and Elizabeth (JONES or GRIFFITHS).
According to census records William JARVIS was born in approx. 1851 in Meole Brace, Shropshire and Elizabeth was born in Bayston Hill, Shropshire or Meole Brace, Shropshire in approx. 1857 (both places appear on census records).
The first child that I am aware of was son William JARVIS and he was born in Meole Brace, Shropshire in 1878. I am unable to find the 1881 census for them so it's possible that the couple had older children that died before the 1891 census.
Based on Elizabeth's age I am assuming an earliest marriage date of 1873 when she would have been 16, and if William was their first child and they married before he was born, a latest marriage date of 1878. I am also assuming they married in the Meole Brace, Bayston Hill area of Shropshire although nothing is certain.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find the marriage and missing census? I live in West Yorkshire so I have to rely on online searches and buying the odd certificate.
Thank you.
Hi Mike,
Thank you very much for your help.
It would have to be Elizabeth GRIFFITHS out of the two ladies above based on all of the information I have gathered so far but of course a marriage certificate would make it certain that this is the right Elizabeth.
Do you know why some marriages only have index records available online while others have more or less full certificates? Is it just a matter of time until they are all uploaded? Or are some lost? Or does it depend on the area the records are/were kept it?
It might be wise to get the birth certificate of my great granddad Thomas JARVIS born in Meole Brace, Shropshire on the 23rd April 1880 first because that would give his mother's maiden name.
Anyway once again I am very grateful to you for your time. Thank you.
Regards
Debbie
Hello
If you look at an original Marriage Register in an archive you will see that there are two marriages on each page and they both get the same reference number in the index so when we look at the index online it is impossible to know which of the two persons of the opposite sex is married to the person you have searched on.
For marriages since 1837 you can only ever see the index online. The only way to get the full information from the certificate is to buy a certified copy or look at the church copy in an archive if you can establish which parish the marriage took place in.
Purchasing the Birth Certificate of a child will give you the mother's maiden name so you can be sure you are researching your own ancestors and not those of someone else.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Thanks once again for your prompt reply. It's very much appreciated.
It must be the church copies from parish records that I've found on ancestry. Unfortunately I rarely find one for the people in my tree that prove to be trickier to work out.
I think it's definitely time to buy my great granddad's birth certificate and see where that takes me. If his mum is a GRIFFITHS I'm thinking that is going to be nightmare branch to follow because of the frequency of the GRIFFITHS surname in Shropshire and surrounding areas.
Thank you.
Regards
Debbie
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Hello
There is a marriage between a William JARVIS and (Elizabeth GRIFFITHS or Mary Ann BRADSHAW) in the Wellington (Shropshire) Reg. Dist. Q3 1875 Ref: 6A 1318.
You will probably have to buy the certificate to be certain unless you can find some other way of checking which of the two possible ladies he married.
Mike