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Jeffdmansell
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Our trail has run cold on our oldest known relative William MANSELL. Born 1686 (about) in Pontsbury married Anne HANLY on April 9th 1711. I have been looking through the Parish records to no avail. I might be looking in the wrong place to find his birth or baptism record with his parents listed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kindest regards. Jeff

angela35
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Hi Jeff, if you are on Facebook, there's a really interesting site called PONTESBURY AND SURROUNDING VILLAGES PAST AND PRESENT . I know that a WILLIAM MANSELL in 1911 kept the Cross Guns inn in Crows Nest as it belonged to my Grandparents in the 1920's . You may find someone on there who is related to him. I checked findmypast site for you but only the marriage is on. The only other site is familysearch in Lilleshall which isn't Nr PONTESBURY.

Name: William Mansell
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 23 Jan 1688
Christening Place: LILLESHALL,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date: 07 Oct 1700
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Walter Mansell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Susanna
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03272-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 502934, 510666
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Pam Willing
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Hi Jeff, I believe you are referring to William Mansell, father of William, Thomas, Edward (bap 1720) , Mary and John. If so, we are related and I can help you. In the Burgess Rolls for Shrewsbury you will find a reference to a William Mansell, gardener of Berriew, who was sworn in in 1721. I don't know how much you know about the burgesses, but one of the ways you could become a burgess was by proving your descent from an earlier burgess; hence genealogy was/is very important. The original records used to be kept at the Guildhall when it was on Dogpole, but I think they may now be deposited at Shropshire Archives. Certainly Shropshire Archives has a printed book in the Local Studies section. William's son Thomas was sworn in in 1769 and several of William's grandsons were sworn in in 1796 (this was how I first picked up the trail). William's father, Michael Mansell a weaver who lived in Abbey Foregate, Shrewsbury was also sworn in in 1721. If you can prove unbroken male descent from a burgess then you are entitled to be sworn in and I know that Shrewsbury are keen to continue the tradition. Unfortunately I am a mere woman and anyway my descent is through my grandmother whose maiden name was Mansell. If you contact SFHS I'm sure they can arrange an exchange of email addresses. I would love to hear from you.

SFHS WebMaster
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Hi Pam, I've sent it to Jeff.

bristolloggerheads
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Lots of Lilleshall Mansells from around this time have probates /inventories at Hereford RO. On the face of it they don't look like your branch.

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Jeffdmansell
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Angela,  Thank you so very much.  I am going to follow this lead.  I cannot thank you enough for your efforts on my behalf.  Ill keep you posted.

Jeffdmansell
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Pamela,  I have sent a couple emails your direction I want to verify you have received them.  Please let me know. 

Kindest Regards

Jeff

angela35
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You're very welcome .

Ian Perrin
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Hi Pam, After a gap of a few years I am restarting my research into my Mansell ancestors in the Pontesbury area. At the time I struggled (atleast with any certainty!) to get beyond Samuel Mansell b.1868; son of John Mansell b.1826 and Martha, but I did have pencilled-in that earlier ancestors were Edward b.1720, son of William Mansell and Anne Hanly, and son of Michael, which seems to match names and dates you mention in your reply to Jeff in 2011. I would be very interested to learn more about this branch of my tree and would be grateful for any further details. I was also interested to learn about the entitlement to become a burgess but alas the male line was broken when my grandfather (Harold Redvers Mansell) begat only daughters!

Kind regards,

Ian Perrin

Nikki Mansell Day
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hello

i am the great grand daughter of a John Mansell who died in 1922 in Pembrokeshire( he was left there with his maternal grandma of the death of his mum in 1844) but he was the surviving grandson of a John Mansell through his son William and his wife Anne Mansell. William emigrated to Australia. 

I have been told that John Mansell the elder was of a family from Shropshire . I see that another William Mansell may have been a yeoman of Abbey foregate in Shrewsbury and features in a declaration made before a master in chancery in 1847 and kept at Kew archives ref: 3693/1/14. If anyone can tell me anything about or point me in the direction of any other publications mentioning the family I’d be so grateful.

thanks Nikki 

 

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Hi Nikki,Before I go any further with my research is the below the John Mansell you are asking about?

Best Regards

John Paul J

Death:
First name(s)     John
Last name     Mansell
Gender     Male
Death quarter     2
Death year     1922
Age     79
Birth month     -
Birth year     1843
District Narberth
Volume     11A
Birth day     -
Page     1233
County     Pembrokeshire
Country     Wales
Record set     England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from     Great Britain, Wales

Burial:
First name(s)     John    Abode:Frolly Farm? (Folley Farm)
Last name     Mansell
Burial date     04 May 1922
Burial year     1922
Age     79
Birth year     1843
Place     Begelly
Archive year range     -
Record set     Pembrokeshire Burials
Page     96
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Burials
Parish     Begelly
County     Pembrokeshire
Country     Wales
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain