Herbert James PITCHFORD, KSLI War Dead

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Bendavis
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my great grandfather died in the first world war, and I wanted to know more about his civilian life, beofre the war, i know he was the inn keeper at the eight bells, but other then that, thats it?

any helpwould be muchly appreciated

 

thank you

angela35
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1911 Census;

 


 
PITCHFORD, Herbert James Head Married M 35 1876 Licensed Victualler Manager St Georges Salop

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PITCHFORD, Kate Minnie Wife Married
9 years
F 32 1879 Assisting In The Business Hadley Salop

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PITCHFORD, Kathleen Mabel Daughter   F 8 1903 School St Georges Salop

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PITCHFORD, Gwendoline Nora Daughter   F 5 1906 School Shifnal Salop

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PITCHFORD, Herbert Horis Son   M 3 1908   Shifnal Salop

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PITCHFORD, Absolam Joseph Son   M 1 1910   Shifnal Salop

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BARKER, Thomas George Nephew Single M 19 1892 Barman Wellington Salop

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JONES, Alice Servant Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Madeley Salop

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RG number:
RG14
Piece:
16012
Reference:
RG14PN16012 RG78PN987 RD347 SD2 ED10 SN218
   
Registration District:
Shifnal
Sub District:
Shifnal
Enumeration District:
10
Parish:
Shifnal
   
Address:
9 Market Square Shifnal
County:
Shropshire
 
 

 

 

AND NOW 1881 CENSUS Giving parents.

Angela

 

 

PITCHFORD, Absalom Head Married M 40 1841 Coal Miner Dawley
Shropshire

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PITCHFORD, Rachel Wife Married F 37 1844   Wellington
Shropshire

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PITCHFORD, Florence Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar Dawley
Shropshire

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PITCHFORD, Mary S Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Wrockwardine
Shropshire

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PITCHFORD, Herbert James Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Wrockwardine
Shropshire

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RG number:
RG11
Piece:
2681
Folio:
11
Page:
16
   
Registration District:
Wellington
Sub District:
Wombridge
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
   
Civil Parish:
Wrockwardine
Municipal Borough: Address:
New St, Wrockwardine
County:
Shropshire
 
 

 

 

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angela35
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Further Info;

 

 

1901 CENSUS OCC; Hotel Barman Living NEW ST, WROCKWARDINE WOOD, ST GEORGE'S WELLINGTON

1891 CENSUS OCC; BRASS WORKER Living with Mother Rachel at 22, Holyhead Road, Wednesbury , West Bromwich,Staffordshire.  

 

 

Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919
Name: Herbert James PITCHFORD
Rank: L/CPL
Initials: H J
Birthplace: St. Georges, Salop
Residence: Shifnal, Salop
Enlisted: Ironbridge, Salop
Regiment, Corps etc.: Welsh Regiment
Battalion etc.: 10th Battalion.
  Raised in the Rhondda Valley by D. Watts Morgan, M. P. in Sept. 1914. To Codford St. Mary in 76th Bde. 25th Div. It was formed as a battalion of K3 but on 30.9.14 went to jointhe other locally raised units in 129th Bde. 43rd Div. at Rhyl. 29.4.15 formation became 114th Bde. 38th Div. Aug. 1915 to Winchester. Dec. 1915 landed at Havre 6.2.18 disbanded in France.
Number: 55764
Date died: 2 August 1917
How died: Killed in action
Theatre of war: France & Flanders
Supplementary Notes: FORMERLY 24743, SHROPS L.I.

 

 

Martyn Freeth
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Nice stuff, Angela. A global search of the surname in IGI for Salop shows, from many hundreds of private, lower-case entries, that it has been extensively studied. Many relate to periods later than normal cover. Others go back long before the start of any registers - may be based on established pedigrees, or just speculation (such as some quaint fliers such as for "Mrs Ralph de Pitchford" 1198).

One moderen private entry is the marriage 23.6.1863 at Dawley Magna Absalom Pitchford (aged 22) and Rachel Tudor (aged 20). Another, "real" entry: bap of that Absalom 8.11.1840 at Dawley Magna, son of Timothy and Honor.

That couple are in 1881 Census (per Family Search for free) at Coppice House, Dawley, he an unemployed coal miner, aged 70, she aged 68, both born in Dawley. (A grandchild with them).

Their marriage not in IGI nor in FreeBMD, any county, so likely to have been before July 1837. SFHS marriage index not yet consulted. This Timothy (there were others in the period) bap 9.9.1810 at Dawley Magna, s of Stephen and Ann. Real entry.

angela35
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No, Martyn, you do all of the legwork and have the expertese, I just utilise the records I pay into to try and help others.

Nice to be nice isn't it? Have a good day. 

angela35
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Bendavis

This link will take you to War Graves Photographic Project where you can order pics of loved ones graves

Your ancestor is on it as I've just searched for his name and it came up !

http://www.twgpp.org/the_war_graves_photographic_project.php 

Angela

 

Bendavis
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thank you all for your help this is amazing,

much appreciated

Ben Davis

Bendavis
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I was wonderuing where did you get a copy of the 1891 census? I have looked on ancestruy.co.uk and can not find it

 

Thank you

Ben Davis

angela35
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Hi Ben,

If you give me your email address,  I have saved the original 1891 census onto my hardrive, then I'll email it you so you can print it off. I got it from findmypast.

Angela

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Angela,

[email protected] thank you musch appreciated

Ben