Cemetery: Dissenters Grave

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penbex86
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I wonder if anyone could help enlighten me...

I know that a lot of my ancestors (Viney and Jones') lived and are buried at the Newport General and I would like to go look over the records at some point and verify the details that another family member gave me.

However, I was told by this family member that some of my earlier ancestors (specifically the Jones') were buried in a common grave in the dissenters part of the cemetery where non conformists were interred??

For example, Ezekiel Jones (buried on 15 September 1863 in grave no.2969 - b1796).

He had children called Nekoda, Merab, Ruth, Norah - which to me, seem quite religious.

Can anyone tell me anymore about this type of grave?

Would the family have a collective grave or would this be simply for any persons not conforming to a non-Christian religion?

I have briefly read about it online but wondered if anyone on here was a little more knowledgable?

Michael J Hulme
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Hello

You are in luck because the Newport Cemetery burials 26 May 1859 to 12 June 1962 are included in the Shropshire Burials Index which you can purchase on CD from Shropshire FHS - see Shop on the blue bar above then Publications Catalogue.

The index gives you the additional information that Ezekiel was a Basket Maker from Norbury Parish.

People were buried in a common grave because they could not afford to purchase a grave plot and for this reason it will usually be unmarked. It is often shared with other people who will be unknown to each other. The only way to determine if family members have been buried together is to find either the Grave Register or the Grave Ref.No. for each person from the Burial Register. If they have the same reference number then they should be in the same grave.

How an individual cemetery handled the 'politics' of non conformists is difficult to guess but the cemetery will certainly have an area of consecrated ground and another area of unconsecrated ground. Presumably there will be common graves in both areas. There may also be specific areas for some religions, especially Catholics.

Mike

penbex86
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Hi Mike

Thanks so much for the prompt response and the wonderful news. Due to the restricted opening times at the Newport Town Council, I was going to have to take some time off work to visit but thats marvellous. One the PDF it lists the following for Newport. Which do I need to order (sorry to sound like a novice)?

NEWPORT
St.Nicholas - Monumental Inscriptions 1492-1947 N/A £0.80 20g
SS Peter & Paul Roman Catholic - Register Transcript 1785-1837 * N/A
See SHROPSHIRE - GENERAL - Roman Catholic
Independent Chapel - Baptisms 1814-1833 N/A £0.30 10g - Baptisms 1828-1837 N/A £0.20 5g
1841 Census Index N/A £3.00 75g
1851 Census Index - Town N/A £3.20 80g
1851 Census Index - Outskirts N/A £0.60 15g

*or would I simply just ask for a copy of all Shropshire Burials? Im, sure theyd come in handy if not overly expensive.

The insight you've given to the cemetery is also interesting. I must pop down there one weekend and have a look myself in any event. Spent many of my childhood days there with my Grandmother but its been some years!!

 

Michael J Hulme
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Hello Penny

The Burials Index CD is listed at the bottom of page 29 of the PDF.

Mike

 

penbex86
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Thanks Mike ... Blonde moment!

chrissy
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Hi Mike, do not know if we are distant relatives but my fathers family also carries these names! My great grandmother was Narah, not Norah Jones and she married George Hodgkinson in Newport in 1874. She had siblings Delilah b 1836, Nekodah 1838, Merab b 1840, Ruth, b1841, Hadriah b1846, Sarah b1849 Lillah b1855, Neriah b1857, Ezekiel b1857 (twins?) Eve b1859 . These are all on the 1861 census. I may be confusing with this message but the names are so unusual as you say that it seemed a coincidence! If you feel this is the right thread you can email me on christine.bolton5@btinternet.com as I may have other snippets!

Regards Chris Bolton

penbex86
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Hi Chris

I assume you meant to address this to myself not Mike?

I will drop you an email. Think we must be related! x

Penny.

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Hi I've just seen your post. I am a relative of those people. Unfortunately I only have info from the census at the moment. I was wondering if you've had much look. Thanks

 

Michael J Hulme
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Hello Robert

It is some time since the original contributors have looked at this thread so I have emailed them to draw their attention to your posting.

Mike  (Admin)