Looking for any information to explain, support or debunk the claim made by my GGGrandmother about the SANDLANDs in Wem that "Years ago it [the Sandland family] was Sandford which is the first family knighted in Shropshire." I think I remember some family suggestion that there had been a feud that necessitated an escape "across the border."
The oldest certain Sandland in my line is Thomas Sandland, born in Cotton in about 1787, but I believe it is reasonable that this line continues for at least several generations earlier. I've looked pretty carefully at the online Shropshire Parish Registers covering Wem and have a good Idea of the Sandlands listed there beginning in 1585; I'd be grateful for information about of those Sandlands. All my research has been online since I live in Indiana, USA.
Judith,
My SANDLAND ancestor who came to the US was Matilda Sandland (b.1871), married to George Bailey. They came to Nebraska. Matilda and her father had been born in Staffordshire, but her grandfather, John Sandland (b.1818), and John’s father Thomas (b.1787) were born in Shropshire in the parish of Wem. John’s sister, Elizabeth Sandland (Brown) lived her whole life in the Wem area. Earlier than Thomas my line becomes quite speculative – based only on family trees in Ancestry.com and study of online Wem parish registers.
If you recognize any of these names or can suggest ways you have, or I could, document my earlier line I would be very pleased to know.
Thank you,
Jean Beckman
Judith
would you be able to tell me where I can find the online registers for Wem. I have an ancestor DRAKELEYwho on a census says his place of birth is Wem.
thank you
Christine Newberry
Hello Christine
About half of all Shropshire Parish Registers which existed in 1812 were transcribed and printed by the Shropshire Parish Register Society around 1900. Just a few transcripts extended beyond 1812 to around 1840.
Many of these printed registers have been scanned and transcribed by Mel Lockie and are freely available on his web site in text format. Use your browser search (find on page) facility (or use CTRL-F to bring up a search box) then enter the name you are looking for to quickly search through the text file.
You can also find all Shropshire Parish Registers (up to 1900) on the Find my Past subscription web site. Put Shropshire in the search box at the top to see what is available. The major advantage of this site is that it includes images of the original parish registers so, in the case of marriages, you will see the signatures of your ancestors who married after 1754.
Mike
Michael
Thank you so much for your response. I thought all my ancestors were from Lancashire until I looked at the census 1841 to find that one had been born in Wem, Shropshire. I will follow your advice, as I do have a subscription to Find My Past.thank you again
Christine
Hi Jean,
I believe that Matilda Sandland was my grandfather, Percy's elder sister. Matilda was the eldest of ten and Percy the youngest. We have traced the name back to Laurence Sandland (b.1549).
My father also has a copy of some pages of a memoir written by his grandmother Mary Finney (Gray) Sandland, which relates to her time in the USA with Matilda (Till).
The Sandland family from the 1840s were involved in the pottery industry in Stoke-on-Trent and manufactured under various names such as Gray, Bennett and Sandland and Colley and Sandland.
I'd be glad to share and more information I have with you.
Regards
Adrian
Adrian -
How nice to see your message (obviously I don't check regularly!).
It sounds like we are definitely cousins of some kind. I have gathered a bit of information about your grandfather, Percy, but woud love to have you fill in gaps for me and bring me up to date. Who is your father? I am aware of three chidren associated with Percy.
I have seen family trees that trace our family back to Laurance and am impressed. When I have tried to confirm the connections I have felt more uncertain. I have done almost all my reserach on Ancestry.com (and through notes in folders from my mother and grandmother). if you have documentatinon for that tree-going-back-to-Laurance, I'd love to know about it.
I also have a memoir from Mary FInney Gray. I wonder whether it is the same one you have. Mine seem to be more about her growing up years than her adult years. And our family has a few pieces of Sandland and Boullemier china. I'd be happy to share pictures.
Jean
Hi Adrian,
Matilda Sandland was the older sister of my grandfather Edwin Sandland. I have a photo of the family taken in 1888 I think, although I am a bit confused with the date because I'm not sure when Percy was born. However he is in the middle of the photo sitting on his mothers lap and wearing a white "dress, white stockings and little lace up booties. He looks like the least comfortable person in the photo.
Edwin left the potteries in 1914 and took his family to Fife where he was the chief designer at Wemyss potteries in Kirkcaldy. He died in around 1928 of some sort of lung disease which is not surprising from the air pollution in the potteries and his smoking habit. However, he was a good painter and his work is much collected.
As a child I met Auntie Flo, (another sibling) who was very deaf and lived in Stoke somewhere. We had to write notes to her. My parents found the family photo at the auction house after she died.
I would very much like to know more about the Sandland family and their Stoke days. I did hear about a legal case which they won but ultimately led to their downfall.
Would you like to see the photo?
Judi
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My Sandland Ancesters are from Wem Shropshire dating to Thomas Sandlane (Sandlande, Sandland) in 1520. Edward Sandland born 1802 left Shropshire and settled in Connecticut. My Grandmother was Edith Sandland. Hope this is some help, I believe we are propbably related. I currently live in Cincinnati Ohio.
Regards
Judith Yelle