PAGE family - Bridgnorth late 18th century

Re: Thomas Page, have you looked at Family Search? There are a couple of marriages of a Thomas Page to a Mary.

Mary Richards 28th May 1792 at St Mary Magdelane to Thomas Page

Mary Harris 3rd July 1796 at St Leonards to Thomas Page

Both these are in Bridgenorth. There are also other baptisms etc on there for Bridgenorth and area. Hazel

Hello David

I can't find Studwick Farm mentioned in the 'Gazetteer of Streets, Roads and Place Names in Shropshire' (available on microfiche from Shropshire FHS - see Shop at top) and this lists virtually all place names that have ever existed in the c o u n t y. I have also checked the Ordnance Survey national gazetteer again without success. Are you absolutely sure of the spelling from the original document?

The National Archives 'Access to Archives' web site brings up one reference to a place named Studwick but this is in the Kingston Upon Thames archives so it is difficult to know if it is any help. It also has a couple of references to Studwick as a surname.

Mike

Hi David,

In view of your own thorough research, this obviously wasn't going to be easy.

However, just a few thoughts and observations;

If you don't know their parents, how do you know the five people you mention are siblings?

You make reference to the Will of John PAGE. Have you also seen the Will of Thomas, James and Sarah ?

Re the two possible marriages of Thomas PAGE to unknown Mary. Would knowing the witnesses help you decide which, if either, is correct?
For the marriage to Mary HARRIS, the witnesses were James PAGE and ? PAGE.
For the marriage to Mary RICHARDS, the witnesses were Samuel JONES and Elizabeth KIRKHAM.

I assume you have full details of the marriage of James PAGE to Sarah PHILLIPS and Ann PAGE to Richard MEESON?

I have approx. thirteen PAGE burials in Bridgnorth between 1810 and 1844, including James (in 1831 not 1833 as you said?) and Sarah of Hungary Street. Do you need those?

I note that Thomas PAGE, breeches maker is listed in a late 1790's trade directory of Bridgnorth. However, James PAGE isn't listed in either that or Pigot's 1822-23 directory but is listed as a baker & flour dealer of St Mary's Street in Pigot's 1828-29 directory. Is this surprising if they are siblings?

Approx. half of the property in Hungary / St Mary's Street was owned by the Whitmore family. Their papers and those of the Apley Estate have been deposited with Shropshire Archives. Having done extensive research on that street, my wife advises that you are unlikely to learn much from those records.

From the Bridgnorth Borough Collection at Shropshire Archives, there is doc. ref BB/E/1/6/15 called 'Running Numbers' dated 1824. Several PAGE's are listed in St Mary's St. The numbers do not relate to present day house numbers.
No.1 - James PAGE, house, garden and yard.
No.2 - Mary PAGE.
No.69 - Richard POYNER, owned by John PAGE.
No.70 - Widow PARKER, owned by John PAGE.
No.71 - Thomas PAGE, owned by John PAGE.

If and when you get back earlier, we also have a list of approx. 650 male inhabitants of Bridgnorth in circa. 1700 that includes a Thomas, John (2) and Richard PAGE.

The Freeman book lists 36 entries for PAGE including 12 Thomas and 7 John's. It's the lack of a single entry for a James that makes it difficult to link the families.

Gwynne 

Dear Mike -  Are you absolutely sure of the spelling from the original document?  see -  see

Good Q: It seems that my transciption was incorrect - Studwick could have been a loosely written Hudwick in curly olde script  A lot of the early Pages came from the Abdon Ditton Priors Area and were farming.  .    -  

Hello David

Hudwick looks much more promising. The Shropshire Gazetteer has three entries:-

Hudwick, Great, 1/2 mile south of Monkhopton
Hudwick, Little, 3/4 mile south of Monkhopton
Hudwick Dingle, Monkhopton

So you can take your pick from these.

Little Hudwick shows on the modern 1:50,000 Ordnance Survey map which you can see by clicking the 'Show modern OS' button from the link below which will give you an 1891 map at 6 inches to 1 mile.

1891 Citation:- 'England - Shropshire: 057/SE', Ordnance Survey 1:10,560 - Epoch 1 (1891).

Mike

Thanks Mike

Hudwick it must be:    ".....Hudwick farm in the occupation of Wm.Page   ....to be sold by Mr Crosby at auction ....18th May 1825  etc

So this solves this one.

Thanks again

David

Thanks for this info Mike - still can't find the kinsman Wm Page who seems to have lived on a farm in Hudwick and who was left a small legacy in the will (1840) of the John Page (Gent/Maltster) mentioned as one of the 5 siblings in my original forum entry.

Many thanks Gwynne for this full reply - I am assembling my answer after some more research so will be in touch again shortly.

David

Havern - many thanks for this info

I am going to go with the marriage to Mary HARRIS, as the witnesses were James PAGE and ? PAGE 

Hi Gwynne - me again

If you don't know their parents, how do you know the five people you mention are siblings? 

Ans: All 5 siblings are mentioned in Mary PAGE'S (Thomas's widow) 1837 will as brothers & sisters of Thomas. Subsquently all 5 siblings now found as a family with dates of births in Upton Cressett - parents Richard Page b. Sept 23 1733 Ditton Priors and wife Joan ? Will of Richard PAGE b1733 now being searched for in Hereford. Wills of Thomas, James and John PAGE (3 of the 5 siblings) also will of Sarah PHILLIPS wife of afore mentioned James were viewed some time ago

For the marriage of Thomas PAGE - I will settle for Mary HARRIS the witnessesbeing James PAGE and ? PAGE 

Ann PAGE to Richard MEESON - I do not have any details for this marriage; please supply if available.

What would today's numbers be for the properties as below ? please could you let me have this information if available                                                                                                                                             No.1 - James PAGE, house, garden and yard.
No.2 - Mary PAGE.
No.69 - Richard POYNER, owned by John PAGE.
No.70 - Widow PARKER, owned by John PAGE.
No.71 - Thomas PAGE, owned by John PAGE. 

I have approx. thirteen PAGE burials in Bridgnorth between 1810 and 1844, including James (in 1831 not 1833 as you said?) and Sarah of Hungary Street. Do you need these? Yes please  yes  -

All info can be sent to jdpage1@btconnect.com - preferred response if ok with you.

Kind regards

David Page

Hi David,

Sorry for my slow response – family bereavement.
I’ve looked again at that marriage of Thomas PAGE to Mary HARRIS. Regret the name of the second witness can’t be read.

The other marriage you requested;
Married at St Leonard’s Church, Bridgnorth on 3 Nov 1788 by Banns.
Richard MEESON (signed) of this Parish to Anne PAGE (her mark) of this Parish
Witnesses were Mary ELCOCK (her mark) and Thomas PAGE (his mark)

I can’t think of a way to reconcile the present numbering sequence of properties in St Mary’s Street to that used previously.

From the Parish Registers;
PAGE burials in St Leonard’s Church, Bridgnorth.
Thomas on 20 Jan 1810.
George on 12 Jan 1829, age 15 mths of Listley St.
James on 30 June 1831, age 70 of Hungary St.
Elizabeth on 22 Feb 1837, age 2 of Listley St.
Sarah on 6 Dec 1838, age 78 of Hungary St.
    
PAGE burials in St Mary’s Church, Bridgnorth.
William on 9 March 1824, age 26 of Listley St.
Thomas on 10 June 1825, age 65 of Church Way.
Caroline on 14 May 1826, age 2 mths of Fox St.
Mary on 14 May 1826, age 2 mths of Fox St.
Mary on 20 Jan 1828, age 77 of Church Way.
Sarah on 12 Nov 1833, age 53 of Back Castle St.
Joseph on 17 Oct 1834, age 25 of Back Castle St.
Edward on 9 Jan 1838, age 58 of West Castle St.

Regards,

Gwynne

I have made great progress since my original forum posting. Many thanks to all who have helped.

The answer to my original question is that the 5 siblings were all born in Upton Cressett 1760's - their father being Richard PAGE b Sept 23 1733 Ditton Priors. This PAGE family have then lived in Ditton Priors or Mid Priors way back into the 15th centuary as far as John PAGE b abt 1448 Richard Castle.

I am looking to find the name of my ancestor. Illegitimate father of William Page who was christened in Chetton only Mary is on the cert. Later he is in Cleobury mortimer. He is an agricutlural worker. I found some of his kids in Rock near kidderminster/Cleobury. He got married in Lindridge in 1820 and I suspect he wa in the tenbury workhouse with his mom. Some of us suspect he was linked to a Thomas Milner.

Can anyone help?

Born 1801 chetton, Married 1820 Lindridge and Lived in Cleobury Mortimer and died down the road in Rock.

I have their lineage to the 1300's if you are interested?