KINASTON Family

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anonymous (not verified)

Has anyone any info on the  family of Thomas Kinaston born 23 June 1751   He later moved to Manchester and marriedElizabeth Hardy 26 November 1772.  I am having difficulty getting back further and finding siblings.

Martyn Freeth
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Hello. The IGI shows a Thomas Kynaston bap (not born) 23.6.1751 at Whitchurch, Salop. But what reason do you have for identifying him? Was he stated to have been from Whitchurch at his marriage? Do you have an accurate age at death or burial?

It is important to remember that the IGI has poor coverage in many areas such as Cheshire and most of Wales (before 1813) so that it is dangerous to settle on an ancestor just because this is the only one who fits.

The likely marriage of the parents of the above Thomas is in IGI. 1742, I think. If there were earlier children before Thomas these might have been bap across the border either in Cheshire or the detached part of Flintshire.

One of my cousins has produced for sale a booklet of pedigrees of better-known families of Kynaston. If you can post your e-address I can forward it to him in case he wishes to be involved. I cannot readily see "your" family; but the work will show something of the wide spread (including some in Monts) and enable you to eliminate characters that you might see on the web.

If the whole topic is new to you try FAQ on the page heading.

 

bracelethall (not verified)

The IGI gives his death as 16 Oct 1816 age 68, but his marriage to Elizabeth Hardy in 1772 says he

is 21.  She dies on 29 Nov 1799.  My ggg grandfather George Southern Kinaston was born in 1796,

his sister Jane Southern Kinaston 1804 and Richard Southern Kinaston 2nd October 1808.  Martha

Southern is single when she marries Thomas on 16 Aug 1807.  Not sure if I have the correct Thomas

but I do know the family were from the Whitchurch / Wem area.

My email is bracelet-hall@hotmail.com

Thanks

Martyn Freeth
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I cannot readily see in the IGI that death in 1816 that you mention; but in any event it is likely to be a private submission and thus to be treated, at first instance, with caution.

As regards the 1772 marriage age 21 may well mean at least 21.

My main concern on your behalf is that there is a Thomas Kyniston bap 13.1.1750 at Manchester Cathedral. Why should not be the one that you seek? Have you looked for his further fate? Similarly have you looked for an alternative fate for the Thomas bap 1751 at Whitchurch?

How did the second name of Southern come in?

I will pass on your e-address to the aforesaid cousin. His family (or a member) has descent through female lines from the Kynastons at Holywell Moor, Loppington.

You might find the SFHS Burials Index useful. See "Shop" on top bar.

bracelethall (not verified)

The name Southern was from ggg grandfather George Kinastons mother Martha Southern  The first

two children were born before she married Thomas Kinaston. I assume he was married to somebody else

as when she marries he is down as widow.

Martyn Freeth
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Noted, but am rather confused. Reason for my question is whether the "Southern" was a likely to reflect a line in before Thomas who married in 1772.

Have nothing much else to add to my previous comments and suggestions. You have the IGI, to try to work backwards for any candidate for Thomas. Coverage for Shropshire pretty good. Elsewhere that might be relevant, mixed. Relying on IGI alone, without checking entries, is dangerous

But remember Wills. Such as proved at Lichfield for north Shropshire; at Chester for south Lancashire and parts of Wales such as near Whitchurch; at St Asaph for north Monts and Denbighshire. Also nationally in PCC. Post further as and when you need further guidance on record offices or indices.