has anyone any information on Humphrey and Mary (was Overton) Crockett, born 1820.
Many thanks
Sorry about lack of info but i'm new to this .Thanks for your help.
Fine. Do you know how to use the IGI, such as for "parent" searches, or to sort real from amateur entries? Also, do you live in Shropshire or have acess to its Archives?
If not I might check out that 1811 marriage. Need to know that Anne Hardinge was a spinster. She and Humphrey may have survived to be in 1851 Census. Her age and place of birth needed.
The line SEEMS cleat back to Humphrey bap 1697 son of John and Alice. Their marriage not in IGI. May have been at Westbury, which included Minsterley (easily checked in printed volume), or in one of the smaller Shrewsbury parishes, not covered for marriages at the time; or in Woolstonmynd / Trelystan, the Montgomeryshire part of Worthen parish (not transcribed or printed, fiches at Archives); or further afield in Monts. Ratlinghope also problematical.
My hunch is that this John was born just before the start of surviving registers of Habberley in or about 1670. This brick wall might be pierced by Wills at Hereford, or sideways study of other groups.
As your interests widen the SFHS Burials Index would be a great help. See "Shop" icon. Also suggest buying the OS 1 1/4 inch (1:50,000) maps for Shrewsbury and Ludlow, though parish boundaries may still be missing.
Mary Overton looks like she bap 20.12.1818 at Barford, but the cert for the 1844 marriage ought to confirm the father. Go into "Links" to find the BMSGH site for available indices etc. But no comparable Forum, I believe.
Hello, thanks for that, sorry but i do not know how to use the IGI and no i don't live in Shropshire,i live in Derbyshire.
What is the BMSGH site? sorry but still very green at this.
Fine. First: Birmingham and Midlands Society for Genealogy and Heraldry is the very large society that covers much of the west Midlands other than Shropshire. "Links" icon will get you in to their site. May need patience to explore.
Next: the International Genealogical Index, created by the US-based Mormon church, is one of the main sources for research here. Start by going into FAQ above. That contains a hyperlink. One in IGI there is a Help icon. Most people tend to search for a name, by county, for a spread of years. Depends on how frequent is the name. Too wide and you get swamped with results. With less common names you can try whole of England for the period. You can search a forename alone for a single year or spread, but with surnames it has to be the whole avaialable period.
Coverage of parishes is not uniform. Shropshire is lucky, with not much missing out of what is available. But, for England as a whole, coverage tends to tail off after 1812.
You might find some useful points by reading the thread on Charles Oscar Robbins. I can explain "parent" search when you have been through the basics.
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It would have helped if you had said what you already knew. But I have this afternoon looked at 1851 and 1861 Censuses at Shropshire Archives, using their "library" subscription to Ancestry.
There is only one candidate for a good span of years. In 1851 HC was a footman employed by the well-known gentry family of Burne at Loynton Hall, Weston Jones, Staffs, aged 35 and married, born in Pontesbury, Shropshire (wife not then with him - have noted the marriage to Mary Overton in Corwen District in 2nd quarter 1844). In 1861 he and Mary were at Chetwynd Aston [ near Newport, Salop ] as a separate household, he then an ag lab, aged 44, born in Pontesbury, she, aged 42, born in Barford, Warks. Also daughter Elizabeth Anne, a scholar aged 9, born in Norbury, Staffs [ same area as Weston Jones, east or NE of Newport ] .
Next, Pontesbury registers on fiche:
11.5.1817 Humphrey son of Humhrey and Anne Crockett, Longden, labourer, bap
Pontesbury printed registers:
13.5.1811 Humphrey Crockett and Anne Hardinge married [ both presumably of the parish, but fiche needs seeing for edetail such as literacy and witnesses ] .
A scan of the old fiches of the IGI shows a succession of HCs in Pontesbury and next-door Habberley, but as ever the originals must be seen. The surname occurs in Pontesbury (where regs survive, unusually from almost the earliest possible date) as early as 1548. Anne Hardinge NOT bap at Pontesbury. I have not looked yet elewhere.