HARRIS/GREENSLADE in Shrewsbury

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Hello all, the last part of my late father's family tree lies in your hands. His aunt, Phoebe Ann HARRIS nee GREENSLADE, married Cyril Frederick HARRIS at St Chads in Shrewsbury in 1910. They feature in the 1911 census living at 14 Hills Lane in Shrewsbury.

During a visit to Shrewsbury, I visited the records centre where I identified the wedding certificate and obtained a print-out of the census. However, it was here that my search halted when I found that no other documents were available for me to search, e.g., local records, directories or electoral rolls. I live in Warrington, Cheshire and I can't get to Shrewsbury as often as I would like.

Can you help? The GREENSLADE family has led me a merry chase so far and now the HARRIS addition is proving just as elusive.

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JimG

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Hello all.Sorry that nobody has been able to provide me with further info regarding my post of 17/10/14.  However, my ancestors, GREENSLADE/HARRIS lived in Hills Lane in 1911 and married at St Chads, Shrewsbury but no records to further my search appear to exist, electoral records, trade directories, etc.

Can anybody assist me with the paths to take, to find out whether my ancestors stayed in the town or moved elsewhere? I've tried name searches on Ancestry and WW1 records, but to no avail. I can consider a caravan trip to the town, if anybody suggests a personal visit to search.

Thanks

Michael J Hulme
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Hello Jim

Looking at the indexes of Births on Find my Past it appears that Cyril Frederick HARRIS and Phoebe Ann (nee GREENSLADE) had a daughter Mary E HARRIS Q3 1911 in the Atcham (Shrewsbury) Reg. Dist. of Shropshire.

Did the family then move to Somerset because they then appear to have had four more children, Albert J 1913, Phyllis W L 1915, Ivor W 1916 and Leslie M Y 1918 in the Williton Reg. Dist, of Somerset.

Bearing in mind that some of these people were almost certainly alive during your lifetime (depending when you were born) I wonder why there is a gap in your family knowledge. Explaining this would help us to help you.

Mike

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Hi Mike, thanks for that response. It's left me quite exited. I imagine that the Somerset link will be the best as Barrington in Somerset was almost the place of the family's origin after they moved from Honiton. Without boring you too much, this family has taken us from Devon to Somerset, Jersey, Guernsey, Birkenhead and Hartlepool. James William Greenslade, my grandfather, unknown to his grandchildren, was born in Jersey (although the ancestors lived on Guernsey)joined the Royal Navy in 1901 and it all began there.

The rest of his siblings were born and some died in Guernsey. Phoebe Anne was his sister and probably named after her earlier namesake in Barrington. However, Her name has been mis-transcribed in a number of places and, our last trip to Shrewsbury revealed her marriage, her 1911 Census location but Ancestry.com revealed no further locations, nor could I find out whether Cyril had served any time during WW1. Perplexing, yes! So, congratulations in revealing further info. I feel another caravan trip coming on. My second cousin will also be pleased. My only problem is that the names you mentioned for her children do not seem to fit with family names, James, Thomas, Ann, Mary etc. Still, it's a new lead that I can follow.

Thank you once again. I will stay on the forum. My home email for any other extraneous info is jimgreenslade47@aol.com Thank you Mike

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Hello Mike, sorry I've been out of touch, but finally tracked down Irish family links and errant grandfather, James William Greenslade, Phoebe's brother.  However, in between time, a new cousin has turned up and showed Phoebe's existance back in Guernsey and, her marriage to her husband's grandfather, RENOUF.  So, the Somerset link seems tenuous though, Phoebe's namesake married Edmond WELCH in Barrington, Somerset in 1876. You might look at the latest of the HARRIS/GREENSLADE posts for a little more info.

Thanks once again for taking and interest, my thoughts will turn back to the Channel Islands and the excuse to have a short holiday there while searching.

Regards

Jim

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Hi Mike, the Greenslade story is long and complex.  Phoebe Ann was my GF James William's younger sister and she was born on 10/3/1884, on their parents' return to Guernsey from Jersey. We've done the whole trip to discover the family there, including the deaths of two of her siblings, Harold and Henrietta.  Both are buried with their mother in the graveyard of St Johns church in St Peter Port.  Brothers, Charles and Thomas survived and ultimately moved to Jarrow in the NE.

Mother, Mary Ann Margaret Brehaut died in 1887 at the age of 32 in St Peter Port.  James William joined the RN in 1901, his two brothers Charles and Thomas were taken in by in-laws, but Phoebe went off the radar until the 1891 census, where she tipped up under the name of Pheobe Grinslade in the village of Curdridge, near Portsmouth (this, in itself requires further investigation, to find out who was Mary Grinslade (Greenslade), the aunt with whom she lived). Mind you, her GF, my GGF, James Greenslade, was mis-transcribed in the 1881 Guernsey Census as Greconslade. This was confirmed as Greenslade, following a visit to the Greff Records Office on Guernsey, and ammendments were formally submitted. Incidentally, at this stage, the Greenslades and the Brehauts became prominent stonemasons, responsible for the building of churches, harbour, and defences on Guernsey and Jersey. James went on to be a master builder, and we have seen the results of his terraced villa-building in St Peter Port.

Phoebe's trail to Shrewsbury was only confirmed by the authentication of her birth place on Guernsey. Although, why she ended up in Shrewsbury married to a Rochdale man, I have yet to find out. Her husband to be on Guernsey also was a stonemason.

Having encountered a new relative quite recently through Ancestry.com, and who is the wife of Phoebe's grandson, Alby (son of Winifred Renouf). He was born in the same year as me and is technically my second cousin.  Unfortunately, he and his wife Lesley, have recently moved to Cyprus, but not before leaving me with some clues to track down on our next trip to the Channel Islands.

That's about it at the moment, until I can search more, or have a holiday. I am slowly building my tree up in Ancestry.com to allow access for others' records.

Keep in touch

JimG