DYMOCKE Family Surname associated with Ellesmere Region

4 replies [Last post]
St Martins Best
Offline
Last seen: 3 weeks 1 day ago
Joined: Sunday, 15-09-2024

Research has proven that my 9th Gt Grandmother was named Magdalen Dymocke, born Oteley Hall, Ellesmere on 6 MAR 1615.  Despite further reasearch, I cannot find anything definitive as to her family ancestry further back in time apart from a possible father called Nicholas Dymocke from Lincolnshire.  There are records at National Archives associated with the Dymocke surname and associated with the area of Ellesmere, Hanmer and Tybroughton across previous years (all seem to be legal judgements and a couple even noted as 'Dymocke -v- Dymocke') but, whilst they can be accessed for a fee, all seem to be hand-written in Latin, which provides no help whatsoever.  I therefore wondered if anybody in this group had come across the surname and could provide some detailed history.  Clearly there is some significance within the geographical area as there was a 'Dymock Arms' pub in Penley, close to Hanmer.

johnp3
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: Tuesday, 9-02-2021

Hi St. Martin's best. Is the below the Magdalen Dymocke you are looking for?

Best Regards

J.P

Part of the heading on the page has the place name: The Parish of Hanmer

Bishop's transcript:
Marriage:
First name(s)     Magdalen
Last name     Dymocke
Bride's birth place     -
Bride's residence     -
Bride's age     -
Bride's marital status     Widowed
Marriage date     09 ? Feb 1639
Place     Hanmer, Flint, Wales
Spouse's first name(s)     Edward    Gent?
Spouse's last name     Kynaston
Birth year     -
Marriage year     1639
Church     -
County     Cheshire
Country     England
Records set     Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Bishop's Transcripts Marriages 1576-1906
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
Collections from     England, Great Britain

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

No heading of place name on the page:

Marriage:
First name(s)     Magdalen
Last name     Dymocke
Marriage date     07 ? Feb 1639
Marriage place     Nannerch   ( I know this place is near Mold)
Spouse's first name(s)     Edward
Spouse's last name     Kynaston
County     Flintshire
Country     Wales
Birth year     -
Event     Marriage
Event year     1639
Page     303
Marriage year     1639
Record set     Flintshire Marriages And Banns
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain
    

 

 

johnp3
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: Tuesday, 9-02-2021
Hi, It's me again, I think you may have some issues going on in your family history. 
Could you please provide the evidence of the birth/Baptism of Magdalen?
 
A real story for you, from back in 1981. At the time I was working for a company based in Gobowen. In April or May that year I had to make call at the Lodge Nr Hanmer, with the last name of the male person being Kynaston.
Well inside the house in the living room they had a very old fashioned fireplace with the mantle piece about 5 feet off the floor. And on it was an invitation to a marriage between a Charles & Diana.
 
Best regards
J.P
johnp3
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: Tuesday, 9-02-2021

Hi It's me again, Regarding the story I told, I think I might have given the wrong surname.  It did begin with the letter K. But I think the name was Kenyon, sorry about that.

Best Regards

J.P

johnp3
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: Tuesday, 9-02-2021

Hi St.Martins Best. Are the person's below your lineage/relatives from that marriage I found in 1639?

When Edward Kynaston of Otely died he stated in his Will that he was to be buried in the parish church (Yard) Ellesmere.

Burial:
First name(s)     Edward    Abode:Otely
Last name     Kynaston
Burial date     21 Apr 1656
Burial place     Ellesmere
County     Shropshire
Archive reference     P105/A/1/1
Birth year     -
Page     79
Death year     1656
Register type     Composite
Death date     ? ? 1656
Register date range     1654-1692
Burial year     1656
Record set     Shropshire Burials
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Burials
Denomination     Anglican
Collections from     Great Britain, England

And could this be Edward's wife?

Burial:
First name(s)     Magdalene
Last name     Kinaston
Gender     Female
Wife of Edw. Kinaston
Burial date     04 Apr 1672
Burial place     Hanmer, Flint, Wales
Spouse's first name     Edw.  Occ:Gent?
Spouse's last name     Kinaston
County     Cheshire
Death year     1672
Country     England
Burial year     1672
Record set     Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Bishop's Transcripts Burials 1576-1906
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Burials
Collections from     England, Great Britain

Best Regards

J.P