Does anyone know if Bishops Transcripts (BTs) for Bettws-y-Crwyn (BYC) and Clun exist for the period 1760-1780, and if so where I could access them? The images of the BYC Parish Registers prior to 1775 are of very poor quality (age?, water damage?) and in places indecipherable. They have a Hudson ancestor of mine baptised in March or May 1770, but I cannot read his forename. His parents were George and Elizabeth Hudson The familysearch website index him as both Richard bap. 4th March 1770 and as George bap. 4th May 1770; either could be correct and both potentially fit in with later records, but due to quality of the Parish Register I cannot decide which is correct. The BT's may help with this conundrum.
Thanks
Phil Poole
Mike,
Many thanks for the info. I'll follow up with the familysearch website to see what their sources were. I suspect more than one as I've found references to both Bettws and Bettus as the name of the parish. I live in Kent, so trips to Hereford and Shrewsbury have to be planned, but I'm planning on going to Society of Genealogists in next couple of weeks, to see if they have anything.
Regards
Phil
Hi Phil,
You did me a great service sometime ago (last year) so maybe I can now help you in return.
Firstly I must say I have, in the past, looked into the records held at Hereford, ( BYC, BTs etc.)this was about 15-20 years ago, the results I got were not very helpful at all, the transcripts were not very legible and in some cases parts were missing altogether.
I spoke to one of the church wardens on one of my many trips out to BYC. over the past few years, I was told by this person that a lot of record had been eaten or defaced by mice while in church keeping.
Mind you, it is a lovely area and a place well worth a visit.
But if it will save you a journey to Hereford I will look in at the records office when it reopens later in the Spring and see what I can find for you, it's only about 10/12 miles from where I live.
Please let me know all dates and details, you may still have my e-mail address if not I'm sure Michael won't mind letting you have it again.
Regards Gulielmus
I downloaded the image from FMP and played around with the light levels. It appears that the last part of the child's name is -hard; but it could also be Evan or Edwd.
Do you have any notes on a Benjamin Hudson, born around 1750?
I have such a person, a non-conformist, whom I have not been able to find his baptism. The most likely connection I have found is a Benjamin Hudson who married Margaret Morris in 1750 in ByC. I cannot find any children to them, so they may also have been non-conformist.
The HUDSONs appear to be well-spread throughout Montgomeryshire, Radnorshire and Shropshire. I've also wondered if it may be a variation of HODSON, which is found a lot on the border.
David,
Thanks for looking at FMP. Do you think that the forename could be Richard abbreviated to Ricd, which I've seen elsewhere?
The earliest Benjamin HUDSON I have in my notes is for one born c.1788 in Llangunllo, Radnorshire.I think his descendants went to live at Cow Hall, Llanfair Waterdine. I've found Census records for him, but not baptism records. It may be on FMP as they have many records for Radnorshire, but only the forename has been transcribed into their index lists.
It's always worth considering variations on the spelling of Hudson. I've seen HODSON and HUDGSTON. Also there was a big family in Montgomeryshire known by name of HUTSON, which gradually changed to HUDSON during the 1800's. But bear in mind one comment I received several years ago from another researcher. He was adamant that his HODSON family from the same are were definitely not HUDSONs !!
Regards
Phil
Hi Gulielmus,
Thanks for the offer. As I live on Kent coast (near Deal) I don't travel back to the beautiful Shropshire countryside as much as I would like ! So any offer of your visit to Hereford would be greatly appreciated.
My main problem is that the Parish Register on Findmypast website is not easy to read, with left hand side virtually illegible. I'm fairly certain it only gives one name, but www.familysearch.org has :
George HUDSON baptised 4th May 1770 at Bettus, Shropshire; parents George HUDSON & Elizth.
Richard HUDSON baptised 4th March 1770 at Bettws-y-Crwyn, Shropshire; parents George & Eliz.
I'm not sure what the source material is for familysearch. I suspect that one may be a secondary source reather than the original Parish Register. I've seen other individuals in my tree with this different spelling of BYC, and the same individual with differeing dates. Confusing to say the least.
I think there were two individuals named George and Richard, but based on later records I think George may have been born c.1760. And both names occur often in later generations, and if my thinking is correct they appeared in the family prior to these two boys.
Regards
Phil
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Hello Phil
First of all there is an unprinted indexed transcript of Bettws-y-Crwyn and Clun parish register at Shropshire Archives to 1812. I presume these were done around 1900 so may have been done before they became so unreadable.
There are Bishops Transcripts (BTs) for Bettws-y-Crwyn at Hereford Record Office 1661-1833 plus some other dates so these might help you and for Clun the BTs are also at Hereford 1702-1834 plus other dates.
The Hereford Archives are likely to stay closed until late spring whilst they move to new premises.
You might like to check the source of the entries on Family Search because they might have used the unprinted transcripts and/or the BTs.
Mike